Mondo Marvel juillet & août 2024

[scarletneedle]

Le planning des panels de San Diego :

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	For the first time, Marvel is kicking off Comic-Con weekend with a Hall H panel on Thursday, July 25, at 6:30pm PT. Marvel Studios fans won’t want to miss Marvel Studios: The Ultimate Deadpool and Wolverine Celebration of Life. Fans can register for a chance to reserve a seat HERE. Marvel is also bringing back fan-favorite panels like “Marvel Comics: Next Big Thing,” which will dive into what comes next in Marvel’s Comics and the future of the Marvel Universe; “Women of Marvel,” assembling talent from across the Marvel team to talk about breaking in as a creative, and Marvel’s 85-year legacy; “Marvel Fanfare with C.B. Cebulski,” who will be joined by Producer and Marvel Studios’ President Kevin Feige along with other guests as they discuss Marvel storytelling across comics and film; and of course Marvel Studios’ Hall H Presentation Saturday at 6:00pm PT, sharing all the latest news about the Marvel Cinematic Universe directly with fans in a can’t miss dive into the MCU! For X-Fans, the editorial and creative team on Marvel Comics’ X-Men relaunch will share first looks and behind-the-scenes reveals of what’s next for Marvel’s Merry Mutants during “Marvel Comics: X-Men From the Ashes” on Saturday, July 27. And for fans of tabletop games, The Glass Cannon Network will host a live-play of the Marvel tabletop RPG “Deadpool Role-Plays the Marvel Universe” in an hour-and-a-half long show that will take the crew through interesting career choices as they careen through the Marvel Universe—and make sure to stick around for a special giveaway at the end! Marvel Games fans won’t want to miss the Marvel Rivals game panel on Thursday, July 25, which will dive into the making of NetEase Games and Marvel Games’ “Marvel Rivals”, with a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the new Marvel Super Hero Team-Based PVP Shooter, including exclusive reveals and a special giveaway. Check out the schedule of Marvel’s panels below! Thursday, July 25 11:15am – 12:15pm PST in Room 20: Marvel Rivals: The Story, Art and Sound of the Game Join the Marvel Rivals panel for an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at the creation of the next great Super Hero shooter game. Get insights from the NetEase Games creative team, including Jinghua Duan (Lead Narrative Designer), Dino Ma (Art Director), and Donger Gan (Narrative Designer), along with the Marvel Games creative team: Danny Koo (Executive Producer), Dakota Maysonet (Creative Development Manager), and Dan LaDuca (Senior Art Director). This panel will be moderated by Ryan Penagos (VP & Creative Executive of Digital Marketing) as the teams delve into the story, art, and sound design of the game. Expect exclusive reveals, including a new game trailer and special guest appearances! 6:30pm PST in Hall H: Marvel Studios: The Ultimate Deadpool and Wolverine Celebration of Life Friday, July 26 3:00pm – 4:00pm PST in Room 6DE: MARVEL FANFARE WITH C.B. CEBULSKI & KEVIN FEIGE Marvel masters collide in an unprecedented meeting of page and screen! Join Marvel Comics Editor in Chief C.B. Cebulski and Marvel Studios’ President Kevin Feige as they discuss their mutual love for all things Marvel Comics along with some special surprise creators. With decades of creative storytelling at the House of Ideas between them, there will be no shortage of insider insights and unheard comic book anecdotes that you can’t afford to miss. And if that wasn’t enough – following the discussion, fans will receive an exclusive giveaway comic! 4:15pm – 5:15pm PST in Room 6DE: MARVEL COMICS: Next Big Thing This is it, True Believers – the one you’ve been waiting for! Editor in Chief C.B. Cebulski, VP of Digital Media & Creative Strategy Ryan Penagos – aka Agent M – and other Marvel guests are here for a glimpse into the future of your favorite heroes. The world-shaking ramifications emanating from Blood Hunt will last for years to come, and fans can look no further than this panel for an exclusive glimpse at the new status quo in the wake of the bloodiest Marvel event ever. Plus – Attendees who stay until the end will receive an exclusive giveaway comic book! 7:30pm – 9:00pm PST in Room 5AB: Deadpool Role-Plays the Marvel Universe! Ft. Glass Cannon Network Mercs are disappearing, and Deadpool needs a team to help investigate. Join The Glass Cannon Network and their special guests, as they play through an exciting new adventure for the Marvel Multiverse Role-Playing Game! They’ll look for clues, make some interesting career choices, and ignore plot holes in this hour-and-a-half special you won’t want to miss this. Plus, you’ll want to hang around for the special giveaway at the end of the show! Saturday, July 27 3:00pm – 4:00pm PST in Room 6A: MARVEL COMICS: X-Men: From the Ashes From the ashes – a new beginning! The Krakoan Age has come to an end, and the X-Men are entering a bold new era of storytelling as they find themselves once more navigating a world that hates and fears them. So join Editor in Chief C.B. Cebulski, Executive Editor X-traordinaire Tom Brevoort, and more mutant masterminds including Gail Simone (Uncanny X-Men), Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing (NYX), Mark Russell (X-Factor), and Declan Shalvey (Mystique) in this uncanny panel featuring first looks, behind-the-scenes reveals, and thrilling announcements! And be sure to stay until the end for the exclusive giveaway! 6:00pm – 7:00pm PST in Hall H: Marvel Studios Hall H Presentation Marvel Studios president and producer Kevin Feige and special guests provide an inside look at the ever-expanding Marvel Cinematic Universe. Sunday, July 28 10:00am – 11:00am PST in Room 6A: Women of Marvel The Women of Marvel Panel returns to San Diego Comic-Con! Talent from across the Marvel universe will assemble to talk about breaking in as a creative, building a career in nerd spaces, how fandom has changed, and being a part of Marvel’s 85-year legacy. Join Marvel Studios producers and Marvel Comics creators as they talk about what’s next for them and for Marvel. And be sure to stay until the end for the exclusive giveaway!

[Dhargo]

	Citation:			Posté par scarletneedle
	X-Men: From The Ashes | Official Launch Trailer | Marvel Comics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epec0RYI49k

A part Stegman, j'ai eu l'impression de voir le même dessinateur sur toutes les séries. C'est très formaté/uniformisé côté dessins je trouve, beaucoup trop ! Y a rien qui détonne vraiment, c'est dommage.
Mais bon, de toute façon je n'avais pas vraiment l'intention de me relancer dans une énième mouture des X-Men.

[scarletneedle]

Allez, encore un titre annoncé :

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	MISSIONS SO DIRE WOLVERINE MUST GO IT ALONE! WOLVERINE takes the fight to those who stand as enemies of mutantkind! LAURA KINNEY was bred to be the ultimate assassin as X-23. She’s long left that life behind, but as she encounters mutants being forced to use their powers against their will, WOLVERINE takes it upon herself to right these wrongs—no matter who stands in her way! Dynamic script Erica Schultz (HALLOWS’ EVE; X-23: DEADLY REGENESIS) and rising star artist Giada Belviso (BLOOD HUNTERS, MS. MARVEL) bring Wolverine on her first mission abroad in the From the Ashes era, as Laura takes the fight to mutant oppressors wherever they may hide! Laura Kinney: Wolverine #1 · New ongoing series, on sale December · Written by Erica Schultz · Art by Giada Belviso · Cover by Elena Casagrande

[scarletneedle]

Ca serait dommage après u certain film...

[pietro]

Il y a aussi une série sole Psylocke qui a été annoncée.

Launching in November, PSYLOCKE will be written by Alyssa Wong, known for their acclaimed work on STAR WARS: DOCTOR APHRA and DEADPOOL, and drawn by rising star Vincenzo Carratù, the artist currently delivering explosive vampire slaying action in DRACULA: BLOOD HUNT.

PSYLOCKE will tie into the character’s current status quo established in Jed Mackay and Ryan Stegman’s X-MEN #1, where she lends her deadly expertise to Cyclops’ team of X-Men operating out of Alaska. However, there are missions that aren’t suitable for the X-Men and require Psylocke to embrace the teachings of her dark past!


ca fait beaucoup de séries solo dans l'univers X

[scarletneedle]

Et plein qui se casseront la gueule mais bon comme Tom Brevoort revendique le fait d'inonder le marché avec un maximum de titres X...

[Slobo]

	Citation:			Posté par scarletneedle
	Allez, encore un titre annoncé :

J’ai cru que c’était gabby tellemen5 qu’elle fait plus jeune et plus petite.

[watchblue]

Oui et puis la ce qui est beau c est que c est officiellement le clone car elle a été ressuscitée alors que l ancienne était pas morte.....


Oui j avoue je pourrais lâcher le dossier krakoa c est fini

[Fred le mallrat]

le clone du clone donc

apres c etait justement interessant car le fait d avoir les deux montrait bien (comme avec beast) que on est vite plus la meme personne dés que quelques années passent..

Le Beast ressucité lui aussi n etait pas encore le beast "actuel"et ne le sera donc probablement jamais
Apres le départ de hickmann, les autres ont bien joué avec justement tous les problemes que soulevaient les idées de hickmann

[scarletneedle]

	Citation:			Posté par watchblue
	Oui et puis la ce qui est beau c est que c est officiellement le clone car elle a été ressuscitée alors que l ancienne était pas morte..... Oui j avoue je pourrais lâcher le dossier krakoa c est fini

Tu veux rire (nerveusement) ?

Lis un peu ce que l'autre truffe de Tom Brevoort a dit...

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/tom-...en-and-krakoa/

[Slobo]

	Citation:			Posté par Fred le mallrat
	le clone du clone donc apres c etait justement interessant car le fait d avoir les deux montrait bien (comme avec beast) que on est vite plus la meme personne dés que quelques années passent.. Le Beast ressucité lui aussi n etait pas encore le beast "actuel"et ne le sera donc probablement jamais Apres le départ de hickmann, les autres ont bien joué avec justement tous les problemes que soulevaient les idées de hickmann

Pas sur étant donné que dans Age of X, les mutants avait rencontré un version futur et déjà mauvaise de Beast.

Le roman nous sommes bob, nous sommes légion montre bien qu'en effet à partir d'une même base en temps que personne ensuite chacun évolue ou a ses différences, même si aucun n'a pris un virage à 180%.

C'est une question avec laquelle les auteurs SF/Comics joue souvent, le est-on destinée à devenir ce qu'on a été (Dans un autre futur même probable).
En comics je pense à Cosmic Ghost Rider qui veut tuer Thanos Bébé.
Ou je pense au jeune X-men. Beast avait transporter le jeune cyclops pour qu'il se confronte a son lui futur, et que son lui futur soit ramener à "la raison".
N'empêche les événements on eu lieu tel quel (Vu que les jeunes X-men avaient leurs souvenirs d'effacés) et même une fois les souvenir revenu, ils sont rester tel quel.
Beast par exemple n'a jamais retouché à la magie pour autant.
D'ailleurs il est intéressant de noter que le beast actuel est donc antérieur et ne se rappel pas ses aventures en temps que jeune Xmen dans le présent (Rho le mal de crane qu'il va avoir en lisant les rapports à terme), mais bon les auteurs on surement oublié ce point de détail.

[Zeid]

	Citation:			Posté par scarletneedle
	Et plein qui se casseront la gueule mais bon comme Tom Brevoort revendique le fait d'inonder le marché avec un maximum de titres X...

Sachant que je trouvais que c'était déjà le cas sous Krakoa, je suis désespéré de voir cette multitude de titres annonces... alors certes, beaucoup n'auront sans doute pas un grand avenir, mais quand même... j'avoue que je préfèrerai deux trois titres max, mais que chacun soit vraiment d'une qualité irréprochable, plutôt qu'une multitude de titres qui seront vite lus (ou pas), vite oubliés... Et encore, je suis fan de la franchise, et ça peut se justifier avec tous les perso X, mais quand je vois le nombre de séries Spider-man, dont aucune ne me donne envie, je m'interroge sur la stratégie de Marvel (bon, cela dit, le titre principal Spider-man continue de se vendre pas trop mal a priori donc ça suffit à les convaincre de continuer).

[Fred le mallrat]

Age of Apo ou Age of X ou quoi que ce soit.. c est ca qui malheureusment fait tourner le destin de Beast.
Jusque là c est le plus integre ou presque (avec kitty et Diablo)et surtout le plus jovial..
un scenariste veut montrer un monde où ca aurait tourné differemment et tout ce que tout le monde trouve a faire c est juste de se dire que s il tourne mal là-bas, forcement aussi sur 616.. ce qui va a l encontre de justement toutes les intrigues de superheros qui veulent bien te dire que tu n as pas de destinée..

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	Lis un peu ce que l'autre truffe de Tom Brevoort a dit...

Surtout son truc sur les xmen ne tue pas..
c est un peu comme ceux qui trouvent que c est hickmann qui fait du communautarisme..

quand on relit la periode avec les arrivées de Malicia et surtout Magneto... c est déjà du "on defends les notres" et déjà storm glisse vers le meurtre (callisto), Colossus aussi (Mutant massacre) et aprés ca ne fait que s aggraver avec la periode australienne et surtout aprés claremont..

J ai parfois l impression que les gens y compris brevoort ont moins lu xmen que moi.. alors que j ai pas mal de trous dans les 90's..

Mais rien que relire le xmen vs avengers des 80's.. tout ca est tellement criant

Vraiment c est carrement moins choquant que ce que bendis a fait sur avengers (Hawkeye, Captain America).. et qui n etait pas du tout là..

[Enzo]

	Citation:			Posté par Fred le mallrat
	J ai parfois l impression que les gens y compris brevoort ont moins lu xmen que moi..

Bah Brevoort ne cache pas le fait qu'il a moins aimé la tournure prise par les X-Men de Chris Claremont suite au départ de John Byrne (quand le focus est concentré sur Kitty, Ororo & Logan plutôt que Scott), au point d'arrêter de lire ce run vers cette période "Malicia/Magneto".

https://tombrevoort.com/2024/03/31/g...nny-x-men-171/

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	By 1982 when I was forced to pare back my comic book buying due to a lack of income, there was no more popular series in the land than UNCANNY X-MEN. Following the enormous reaction to the “Dark Phoenix Saga” by Chris Claremont and John Byrne a year or two earlier, the title simply exploded, especially in the fan-oriented Direct Sales market. But this growth also coincided with my growing progressively less enchanted with the series, which had been a favorite up to that point. Byrne’s departure changed the ethos of the book in some way, and I found that I was becoming less and less interested in the mutants and their struggles. So accordingly, i ceased buying it with this issue, #171.

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	X-MEN was a really good book during this time, a testament t the creative tripod that was writer Chris Claremont, artist and co-plotter John Byrne and editor Roger Stern. These three creators all balanced one another’s strengths and weaknesses well, creating a series that was fun and exciting and unexpected and which carried a bit more depth than the typical Marvel title of the era.

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	By the time of UNCANNY X-MEN #171, two of the three were gone, with Claremont as the sole survivor. Byrne’s departure was a great loss, his visual treatment (and his co-potting skills) were essential to the appeal of X-MEN. But this was offset, it seemed, by the return of the title’s co-creator Dave Cockrum. I had loved the early Cockrum issues as I dug them out as back issues–in some ways, I liked them better than the Byrne ones. So I was ready for this change. Unfortunately, something just wasn’t right. Cockrum’s work seemed to have lost a lot of the power and sleekness it once had, constrained into pages with lots of tiny panels with lots of full figures in them, as was the preference of EIC Shooter. It likely also didn’t help that inker/finisher Joe Rubinstein wasn’t as slick an inker as the departed Terry Austin.

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	This is a period that is particularly beloved by a whole generation of X-MEN readers. But to me, it moved the series away from the aspects of it that I most liked and towards territory that I wasn’t as comfortable with. I was a typically conservative comic book reader who was averse to change, if you come right down to it. Also, the centerpoint of the series had shifted since Byrne’s departure. When I began reading the title, the pivot-point of the entire affair was the relationship between Cyclops and Phoenix. When Jean died and Cyclops left the book, Chris needed to find a new pivot-point. For a while, he tried to make it newcomer Kitty Pryde. But I found this just made her annoying to me–I had liked her in her earliest appearances, but when she became a genius girl and was the center of every storyline, it was too much too fast for me. Eventually, later on, Claremont would come to move Wolverine and the radically recreated version of Storm into the center square. But that didn’t feel right to me either.

[ollieno]

En gros Brevoort va nous mener vers du X-Men "Alpha flight -> Days of Future Past"

[Enzo]

	Citation:			Posté par Fred le mallrat
	quand on relit la periode avec les arrivées de Malicia et surtout Magneto... c est déjà du "on defends les notres" et déjà storm glisse vers le meurtre (callisto), Colossus aussi (Mutant massacre) et aprés ca ne fait que s aggraver avec la periode australienne et surtout aprés claremont..

Un changement mis en exergue dans un des numéros post-Mutant Massacre avec Bret Blevins (à l'atmosphère résolument sombre, inquiétante et à la lisière de l'horrifique), dans lequel le revenant Havok (représentatif des X-Men d'avant pré-Claremont) a bien du mal à reconnaître les X-Men (du moins l'idée qu'il s'en fait).