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Ron Frenz sur FB
[QUOTE]In The Beginning...!
There seems to be a new wave of conversations going on around social media about"creators","co-creators"and"creations"lately,
specifically surrounding VENOM,twisted foe of the Amazing Spider-Man,Lethal Protector of the innocent and flashpoint for uninformed opinions.
Let me help if I can.
Keeping in mind at all times:I have NO dog in this fight.
(Horrible phrase,by the way.)
Let's start with the popular impressions,one at a time.(Relax,there WILL be pictures I promise.)
1)"Venom was created by a fan and stolen by Marvel for the measly sum of $200.00."
Total B.S.
Randy Schueller submitted a plot idea wherein Spider-Man gets a new black costume (the description of which,from the gentleman's very plot is attached to this essay.)The story itself was unfortunately never hammered into shape for publication so ultimately Mr.Schueller was paid two hundred-some dollars for the idea"Spider-Man gets a new black suit"which Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter was FINE with as he filed the idea away for his SECRET WARS project wherein several characters were earmarked for visible changes before returning to Earth from the conflict.
When the time came to design Spidey's new look artist
Mike Zeck never heard the name Randy Schueller or knew of any prior conversations before creating the look of the black costume.Mr.Rick Leonardi soon suggested a second joint in the leg of the graphic spider which went from red to white at the eleventh hour for purely practical printing reasons.
Attached is my visual interpretation (we call them drawings) of what is described in Mr.Schueller's plot.
Let's discuss the next impression without worrying about sourcing to avoid serious aspersions of any kind.
2)"Todd McFarlane created Venom to get Pete out of the black suit and into his preferred classic red and blue suit and writer David Michelinie is a poopy-head for saying otherwise."
I'm embarrassed to say I ascribed to this thinking for years because of the simple fact that if I were assigned the job of turning Spidey's black suit (now a living symbiotic creature thanks to the twisted mind of writer Tom DeFalco) into his newest nemisis I would not have gone big and muscular and might never had thought to add the mouth.(Which,originally,didn't include the tongue later added by Illustrator Erik Larsen.)
Except that those elements were right there in Mr.Michelinie's original plot for Venom's first appearance (also attached) which was conceived,typed and editorially approved before Mr.McFarlane was ever hired to illustrate the adventures of Spider-Man. Did Mr.McFarlane's subsequent popularity and dynamic approach contribute to Venom's immediate break-out status? Mr.Michelinie has NEVER stated otherwise.
So to the purpose of my drawings attached to this screed.
Question:
Does the drawing based on Mr.Scheuller's description look like what was published as Spider-Man's black costume which later became Venom?
Question:
Does the drawing based solely on Mr.Michelinie's description of his new character from his plot look at all like the Venom we've come to know?
I'll shut up now.[/QUOTE]
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