La boîte à anecdotes rétro ou "Voici Comics" :D

[Fred le mallrat]

Avant 1996, Milestone bossait sur un deal pour reprendre 4 titres Marvel qui auraient été Heroes For Hire, Psi-Force, Power Men (Photon liée à la Powerline) et Deadly Hands of Kung Fu.
Shang Chi aurait été rebooté dans la veine des films de John Woo ou de Crying Freeman.. il aurait utilisé des armes à feux.
https://www.cbr.com/shang-chi-almost...6O4gr2FchcTcro

[EsseJi]

L'intégralité de Amazing Fantasy #15 est désormais au catalogue de la bibliothèque du congrès américain.
On y découvre des détails amusants comme cette police retravaillée.

[scarletneedle]

Et il touche sans gants?

[rik spoutnik]

A quoi riment les différents codes numériques ?

[Fred le mallrat]

Ron Frenz sur FB

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	In The Beginning...! There seems to be a new wave of conversations going on around social media about"creators","co-creators"and"creations"lately, specifically surrounding VENOM,twisted foe of the Amazing Spider-Man,Lethal Protector of the innocent and flashpoint for uninformed opinions. Let me help if I can. Keeping in mind at all times:I have NO dog in this fight. (Horrible phrase,by the way.) Let's start with the popular impressions,one at a time.(Relax,there WILL be pictures I promise.) 1)"Venom was created by a fan and stolen by Marvel for the measly sum of $200.00." Total B.S. Randy Schueller submitted a plot idea wherein Spider-Man gets a new black costume (the description of which,from the gentleman's very plot is attached to this essay.)The story itself was unfortunately never hammered into shape for publication so ultimately Mr.Schueller was paid two hundred-some dollars for the idea"Spider-Man gets a new black suit"which Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter was FINE with as he filed the idea away for his SECRET WARS project wherein several characters were earmarked for visible changes before returning to Earth from the conflict. When the time came to design Spidey's new look artist Mike Zeck never heard the name Randy Schueller or knew of any prior conversations before creating the look of the black costume.Mr.Rick Leonardi soon suggested a second joint in the leg of the graphic spider which went from red to white at the eleventh hour for purely practical printing reasons. Attached is my visual interpretation (we call them drawings) of what is described in Mr.Schueller's plot. Let's discuss the next impression without worrying about sourcing to avoid serious aspersions of any kind. 2)"Todd McFarlane created Venom to get Pete out of the black suit and into his preferred classic red and blue suit and writer David Michelinie is a poopy-head for saying otherwise." I'm embarrassed to say I ascribed to this thinking for years because of the simple fact that if I were assigned the job of turning Spidey's black suit (now a living symbiotic creature thanks to the twisted mind of writer Tom DeFalco) into his newest nemisis I would not have gone big and muscular and might never had thought to add the mouth.(Which,originally,didn't include the tongue later added by Illustrator Erik Larsen.) Except that those elements were right there in Mr.Michelinie's original plot for Venom's first appearance (also attached) which was conceived,typed and editorially approved before Mr.McFarlane was ever hired to illustrate the adventures of Spider-Man. Did Mr.McFarlane's subsequent popularity and dynamic approach contribute to Venom's immediate break-out status? Mr.Michelinie has NEVER stated otherwise. So to the purpose of my drawings attached to this screed. Question: Does the drawing based on Mr.Scheuller's description look like what was published as Spider-Man's black costume which later became Venom? Question: Does the drawing based solely on Mr.Michelinie's description of his new character from his plot look at all like the Venom we've come to know? I'll shut up now.

[Fred le mallrat]

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	Stern later recalled to my pal Tim Callahan in TwoMorrows' Back Issue #29, "Chris had come up with the latest of several crazy ideas and declared that Nightcrawler’s father was Nightmare. And I replied with something like, “No, he’s not. I’m not going to let you appropriate one of my character’s major villains.” As I recall, Len Wein crossed the room and shook my hand. And not too long after that, I did become the X-Men editor and was able to make sure that didn’t happen for long enough that Chris eventually changed his mind." John Byrne also recalled at one point, “Back when I was on the book, Chris wanted to reveal that Nightcrawler’s father was Nightmare, the Dr. Strange villain. Roger Stern, as editor, said no, pointing out that that would make Kurt a hybrid, not a mutant.” Well, by the end of 1980 (this was all soon after the Dark Phoenix Saga. The Annual in question even printed letters about the Dark Phoenix Saga), Stern was no longer the editor on X-Men, and nor was his successor, Jim Salicrup. Louise Jones had instead taken over as the editor on the book and when it came to Doctor Strange, she had a different perspective than Stern when it came to Claremont desiring to use the character.

https://www.cbr.com/doctor-strange-d...men-sorceress/

[Fred le mallrat]

Bob Layton

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	While I'm away from my drawing board, working on a special project, I've been posting some of my Iron Man armor concepts. From 1987, here are some unused Silver Centurion prototype pencil sketches, originally showcased in Marvel Age #55

[scarletneedle]

Je préfère la vraie.

[mellencamp]

Iron Sumo à gauche

[rik spoutnik]

L'armure à droite ressemble à celle d'Iron Lad.

[ollieno]

	Citation:			Posté par rik spoutnik
	A quoi riment les différents codes numériques ?

si tu parles du code sur la page du Spider-Man

V-789 est l'ordre de production

(le reste = tu as les tailles de la pages, et le nom + numéro de page du magazine, pour faire les films -- Brevoort a montré les films de FF 1, et l'ordre des numéro de pages, il y a peu)

pour en revenir au numéro de prod, il sert dans les vieux comics (MArvel, DC, Dell ...) pour retrouver quand a été produit un comics ou un autre (ses chiffres sont incrémentiels, et donc permettent de savoir que les histoires de Thor dans JiM n'ont pas été publiées dans l'ordre de réalisation (ou ordre de commande) ^^ )

[ollieno]

	Citation:			Posté par Fred le mallrat
	https://www.cbr.com/doctor-strange-d...men-sorceress/

ce qui est interressant dans cet échange c'est que Claremont essayait de raccrocher les origines de Nightcrawler à la création originale de Cockrum

et c'est exactement ce que fera Austen bien plus tard ^^

[Fred le mallrat]

https://www.cbr.com/alan-moore-once-...Gk8CvoaNKD8P6Y

[EsseJi]

Oh cette deuxième planche, souvenir d'un 52 cases signé FredGri si je ne me trompe pas.

[rik spoutnik]

C'est drôle de voir Tony Manero dans un comic book.