DC Nation Juillet 2008

[scarletneedle]

Source Comic Book Resources

Une interview d'Alan Burnett sur son run à venir sur Flash : ici

Marrant que son arc coïncide avec celle de Final Crisis en Décembre...
1 relaunch? Où ça un relaunch?

[Gassian]

Je reproduis ci-dessous un (gros) morceau de la dernière colonne de l'excellent Steve Grant ; une sorte d'analyse comparée des 2 events de l'année.

	Citation:
	Take SECRET INVASION; in the titular mini-series and in MIGHTY AVENGERS and NEW AVENGERS, Brian Bendis set out a far-spanning, at least surface methodical Cylon " er, Skrull " plot to conquer the Earth because their unspecified god (I have this creeping feeling he'll turn out to be Dr. Strange's Dormammu, or Mephisto) has promised the planet to them. Good lord, they're the Hebrews invading Canaan! Mostly in the side books, Bendis has nicely sketched out the plot. In SECRET INVASION, when the Skrulls do strike their movements also seem methodical, focused on strategic targets. (Though given their revealed preparations, the preparations seem insufficient; why openly attack, after years of waiting, in the face of likely widespread opposition when another year or two of secret infiltration and they could likely neuter or eliminate all opposition, even if the Avengers finally have indicators that such an invasion is under way.) Then we get to the tie-in titles. With the exception of CAPTAIN BRITAIN and HERCULES, where strategic, if farfetched, goals are outlined, the tie-ins seem to be mostly Skrulls attacking on unnecessary fronts just so superheroes can fight them. Even in one of the better tie-ins, FANTASTIC 4 SECRET INVASION, there's a seemingly clever Skrull plot to blast the FF's HQ into the Marvel U's Negative Zone " but apparently no thought to what happens once it gets there. If we believe in continuity and Bendis' suggestion that the Skrulls have done their homework, they'd know that for the FF, even without Reed Richards aboard, escaping the Negative Zone has gotten to be about as easy as going to the bathroom. Not that the SECRET INVASION tie-ins haven't been reasonably entertaining, but that's the problem with most superhero comics: they've overall become so enamored of their Big Ideas (whether they have any or not; when you're enamored anything can pass for a Big Idea) that extrapolating those ideas to their fullest has become something of an annoying luxury. Yet that's exactly what's needed now. Speaking of which, FINAL CRISIS #2 was something of an improvement on #1, though it still feels more like preamble so far. (The way things are going, with one pin after another being knocked down while The Real Menace waits in the wings, had this series been COUNTDOWN TO FINAL CRISIS, everyone would have thought it was brilliant.) And to some extent Grant Morrison is now the victim of his own reputation. I said a couple months back how Morrison was launched to his current Olympian status in the business by his JLA run, which was crazed and brilliant and popular despite relatively ordinary art, and few noticed at the time that Morrison basically made his stories the apotheosis of the Gardner Fox formula that helped make JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA a big success the first time around, but, left unextrapolated, would have been laughably inappropriate for modern comics. This is something comics fans, and often editors and talent, just can't get through their heads: everything has its day. If you're going to poach from the past, you still have to filter it through the modern experience. Morrison did that, brilliantly, on his JLA run. Which is half the problem with FINAL CRISIS. Good art turns out not to especially be Morrison's friend; it somehow camouflages Morrison's strengths. The arc so far has the vague feel of a leftover JLA plot, a prequel to Morrison's big "Darkseid" arc in issues 10-15, where the evil New Gods conquered Earth and turned it into the new Apokalips, and Morrison, in a clever, effective and now unfortunately memorable, enhanced the erosion of Darkseid as a character anyone might take seriously, when he's finally put in his grave by the daunting team of Green Arrow and The Atom. Taking Darkseid seriously wasn't really helped by either DEATH OF THE NEW GODS or COUNTDOWN, where in both he again demonstrated his now traditional main character traits of Machiavellian deceit and supercilious bluster, capped by dismal defeat; if Morrison has done anything really right so far in FINAL CRISIS, it's been having Darkseid mostly keep his bloody mouth shut. But what bumped FINAL CRISIS #2 up to interesting wasn't the Japanese superheroes or the defeat of Batman (I suppose it's too much to ask for evil to utterly destroy him, just to prove their point) or Hal Jordan being accused of treason to the Green Lantern Corps (I know inane plotlines drove him off his rocker for awhile there, but after all the times he has saved the Earth and the Universe and The Guardians Of The Universe, he suddenly has a "superior officer?" This is why its impossible to take the Guardians seriously.) but the admission that the series isn't a sequel to CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS or INFINITE CRISIS or COUNTDOWN but to Morrison's much overlooked 7 SOLDIERS OF VICTORY, specifically the MR. MIRACLE mini in it, where it was first stated that it was The Day Evil Won, and which, the way things are progressing, would seem to be the microcosm to FINAL CRISIS' macrocosm, and an indicator of how the latter will play out. "Microcosm/macrocosm" " the "as above, so below" of hermetic magic " is obviously a running structure in the series (not unexpected, given Morrison's legendary occult proclivities) and we may assume the evil gods destroyed the good as they're destroying Earth's heroes, via misdirection and subterfuge rather than direct conflict, while the battle on Earth reflexively becomes the macrocosmic War Of The Gods; as below, so above. Then there's Morrison's new Mr. Miracle, making the rounds and quietly scraping up forgotten or ignored heroes like Kirby's Sonny Sumo, apparently lionized in Japan and remembered nowhere else, to fly under the radar and take on the all-conquering evil that the better known heroes are increasingly helpless against it. Just like Nick Fury over at Marvel. Which, when you deconstruct their elements and notice the joint "will of God" underpinnings, makes FINAL CRISIS and SECRET INVASION the same story! (Both, curiously, running seven issues.) It's rare that Marvel and DC go head to head, storywise, on the exact same playing field. Which will make for an interesting spectacle, the rest of this year, to see who gets it if not right at least righter. Marvel's got a slight edge, if only because their sights are set lower. Bendis, really, only has to be somewhere in the neighborhood of as good as Marvel has ever been, while two swords hang above Morrison's head. He needs to pay off on all the Big Events DC has paved the road to FINAL CRISIS with, and he has to outdo himself.

Alors oui c'est un peu long, discutable sur certains points, mais réellement passionnant. Non ?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=17073

[Gassian]

Jim Starlin fait le point sur Hawkman. Là : http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultim...;f=36;t=007299

[scarletneedle]

Maintenant que DC a officialisé l'arrivée de Carlos Pacheco pour épauler J.G Jones, DC se "lâche" : Final Crisis 3 a une semaine de retard. Arrivée la 1ère semaine d'Août d'après le site de DC...

[mr nix]

"Not that the SECRET INVASION tie-ins haven't been reasonably entertaining, but that's the problem with most superhero comics: they've overall become so enamored of their Big Ideas (whether they have any or not; when you're enamored anything can pass for a Big Idea) that extrapolating those ideas to their fullest has become something of an annoying luxury.

Yet that's exactly what's needed now."

Donc en gros: le systeme est pourri mais c'est le seul qui marche?

[nicoalk13]

	Citation:			Posté par scarletneedle
	Maintenant que DC a officialisé l'arrivée de Carlos Pacheco pour épauler J.G Jones, DC se "lâche" : Final Crisis 3 a une semaine de retard. Arrivée la 1ère semaine d'Août d'après le site de DC...

JG Jones n'a meme pas fini le 3 , pourquoi avoir sortit le 2 si tot alors

Ah oui c'est vrai le 1 était pourri!

[scarletneedle]

tu peux arrêter de troller à chaque fois?

[Gassian]

	Citation:			Posté par mr nix
	"Not that the SECRET INVASION tie-ins haven't been reasonably entertaining, but that's the problem with most superhero comics: they've overall become so enamored of their Big Ideas (whether they have any or not; when you're enamored anything can pass for a Big Idea) that extrapolating those ideas to their fullest has become something of an annoying luxury. Yet that's exactly what's needed now." Donc en gros: le systeme est pourri mais c'est le seul qui marche?

C'est pas exactement comme ça que je comprends le truc. En gros, il n'est pas hostile à la multiplication des tie-in : il regrette juste qu'elle ne s'accompagne pas d'un véritable approfondissement de l'intrigue de base.

[ericvil]

	Citation:			Posté par nicoalk13
	JG Jones n'a meme pas fini le 3 , pourquoi avoir sortit le 2 si tot alors Ah oui c'est vrai le 1 était pourri!

jones peut pas avancer si on lui donne rien

[Virgule]

Arretez la verité est que JOnes mets du temps a comprendre le scripts de grant stout.

[ericvil]

peut etre aussi
c'est mcguiness il me semble qui disait qu'il avait rien capté quand il a bossé avec momo

[Slobo]

C'était pas écrit en Anglais ?

[Gassian]

	Citation:			Posté par Slobo the world greatest looser
	C'était pas écrit en Anglais ?

Non, il a fallu tout retraduire depuis le Gaëlique.

[Gassian]

Grant Morrison vous parle (et en anglais, encore bien)

	Citation:
	Can YOU guess the identity of the Black Glove? I keep thinking it’s so upfront, so obvious, that readers will inevitably demand an impromptu hanging when the reveal is revealed but, as ever, the looming possibility of public execution is part of the fun of writing BATMAN. Issue 678 is my gift to fans of the Dark Knight who’ve always dreamed of seeing a strung-out, psychologically-pulverized Bruce Wayne staggering across Gotham City in search of a heroin dealer. Holy Harry the horse, Batman! And since I know every living thing is crouched with bated breath for his return…NO, there’s no Joker yet. He’s coming in #679 and will, of course, stride like a colossus across #680, the issue before the FINAL revelation of the identity of the Black Glove. COMING SOON…big news on upcoming VERTIGO projects like SEAGUY: SLAVES OF MICKEY EYE!, JOE THE BARBARIAN and POISON PINK plus the lowdown on the MAHABHARATA online project with Virgin and first rumblings of the NEW Morrison/Quitely collaboration to follow ALL-STAR SUPERMAN!

http://www.grantmorrison.com/index.p...0&limitstart=6

[Gassian]

Ci-dessous, le DC Nation de la semaine dernière.
C'est probablement ce que j'ai lu de plus fun chez DC ce mois-ci alors je me suis dit ...




Merci M. Giffen !