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En cours de scan .
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rho la vieille excuse a deux balles
voila, on est déjà plus dans le vrai. quel branleur ce D@rkJuju...
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Ah c'est très aimable ça ; je le fais de suite.
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Dans quel circonstances a-t'il tué ce terroriste?
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Les terroristes avaient pris en otage une petite ville de l'Amérique profonde ; et ce pendant la messe dominicale!
Mais tout ceci est à replacer dans le contexte post 11 septembre...
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Alors suite et bientôt fin de mon dossier ; je n'ai plus qu'à vendredi.
Mais mes révisions me prennent l'essentiel de mon temps ; et surtout l'envie n'y est plus ; donc vraiment rien d'extraordinaire. Je vous propose un premier brouillon de mon dossier (il y manque quelques précisions ou développements). Si vous avez des remarques ou des suggestions à me faire, ça se passe par mp. Merci.
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I) Captain America as a « fruit » of America History :
A) The context of World War Two : When Captain America appeared in the last days of 1940 in Captain America Comics 1, The United States were not yet at war. But the creators Joe Simon and Jack Kirby wanted to denounce what is happening in Europa ; the young soldier Steve Rogers, through the costume of Captain America, represents the United States idealised. And it is not a coincidence that the authors are jews. Then Captain America was a monolithic character, that resume to a basic patriotism. He fought against Nazis, in America, then in Europa during the war. He met the super team Invaders, fighting the axis of evil. And it is logical that after the war the title finish ; the hero lost his [raison d’être]. B) The context of the Cold War : In the context of the Cold War, the United States refind new enemies : the communists. A new title Captain America reappear in 1953 (in the midst of the Korean war). But the new series stop one year later. It is in March 1964 that Captain returns permanently on the front of the page in Avengers 4 (Stan Lee/Jack Kirby). In the 70s, the title is close to cancellation ; indeed it was difficult to represent a patriotic hero in the midst of war in Vietnam (in a context when there was a violent opposition to the war). Cap awareness to complexity of the world. With Steve Englehard (start as a writer in 1972) the series take a personal tone, using actuality theme. It is in the context of the Cold War that he became to work for the SHIELD (a super secret organisation) ; we were in spying time. C) The context post 9/11 : Captain America is affected by events of 9/11. One day after he was present on the rubble of the World Trade Center. Like all Americans, it was very painful for him. Soon he is assigned to missions against terrorism ; but the terrorists are now in the image of Al Qaida. But few time after, Bush’s politic became unpopular. Americans were suspicious against their government ; Cap too. Recently (in 2006), a civil war burst in the Marvel universe ; it has divide ranks of super heros, between those who were agree to work with the government, and the others. The anti-government were lead by Captain America! But his camp lose the war, and he is imprisoned. On the way to court, Captain America is kill ; with him, a certain vision of US dies. Since 2007, there were no more Captain America : can US survive without his symbol? II) Captain America like symbol : A) The US myth versus Nazism, Communism, terrorism : Captain America is the charismatic leader of the Avengers ; this international team fought (sometimes under the leadership of the United Nations) against crime. The message is clear : America lead the free world against evil. His principal nemesis, Red Skull, is the incarnation of tyranny and nazism. And organisations like Hydra or AIM are incarnations of international terrorism. B) American values : Steve Rogers has the profile of a white Protestant (WASP). His girlfriend is Sharon Carter (Agent Thirteen), blond hair too. In No. 117, Captain America meet the Falcon ; he is the first black america’s super hero. And in the No.133, he became his sidekick. Together then (starting the 70s), they evolved in Harlem (for example arranging the relationship between youth and police). America doubts its values ; like Captain America. Betrayed by its leaders, he abandon his identity. And to No.177-183, he seeks himself, through the identity of Nomad, the man without a country. Cap turn away from the American dream perverted by corrupt politicians. With DeMatteis (this story-arc * started No. 262), minorities are better represented ; Steve Rogers rediscover his childhood friend, now gay. The authors defended pluralist and tolerant United States (we are in the Reagan victory’s years!) . In 1988-1989, the affairs comittee supra human force Captain to ceased its operations ; and transmet equipment to John Walker (the Super-Patriote), an agent of the xtreme right]. Then the fight between the two men was inevitable ; of course Captain America’s values won. C) Iconography : At this apparition it was common to see heroes of fiction dressed in the American flag. Recently, in Truth * (Robert Morales/Kyle Baker) we learn that the first experimental object of the super soldat serum was... a black soldier, Isaiah Bradley! III) Captain America as issue of representation the history of the United States : A) A oriented comic : the example of Medvev’s commentary : Medvev explain that Captain America becoming a traitor to the nation in the post 9/11 context (‘as if” [it] ‘didn’f face enough challenges’ ; it seem that Medved use caricatural style). And to support his accusation, he quote an extract to Captain America (vol.4) #3 : ‘neither Captain America [...] ever offers a world of rebuttal to the pro-terrorist tirade.’ But this accusation seems too exaggerated : in the same story, Cap kill the terrorist chief! (cf document). B) Political influence : In the 70s, Captain America is a democrat, opposed to Nixon’s politic. With Vietnam and the Watergate, Steve Rogers lose its confidence to American institutions, like middle class americans. C) Cultural influence : The first No. Of Captain America sold more that Time of the same month : 1 000 000 against 700 000! A lot of teenagers read comic book and especially the adventures of Captain America.
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tu t'es pas relu, c'est pas bien!
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Précise bien que Simon et Kirby étaient JUIFS.
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J'ai encore besoin de vous.
Je souhaite illustrer mes propos par un extrait de Ultimates (vol.1) 12, où le Captain se moque de la France en montrant le A sur son crâne. En VO encore svp. (tous ceux que l'on peut trouver sur internet sont de trop mauvaise qualité).
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Et si vous voyez des grosses bêtises ou des grosses fautes dans mon dossier, signalez-le moi svp!
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Merci bien Doop.
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Tu les veux en MP. je t'ai mis la page d'avant parce qu'à mon avis, elle induit l'autre et aide à comprendre ce qu'il veut dire par là !
Tu sais que dans NEXTWAVE, ils s'en moquent de cette citation, je sais pas si c'est utile pour toi. |
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Je sais ; d'autre comics y font aussi plus ou moins allusion. Mais je garde à l'esprit que ce dossier est pour ma professeur d'anglais qui n'y connais ABSOLUMMENT rien aux comics, je vais donc essayer de ne pas la perdre.
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