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07/09/2003, 21h23
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t vache mallrat avec moi.:(
je trouvais ca sympa moi:( t mechant! c pas un flood, c une parenthese bon ben je dirais plus rien sur ce thread je te laisse avec tes copains puisqu'on m'exclue:( |
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07/09/2003, 21h27
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yo t'exclue pas!!!!
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07/09/2003, 21h45
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Attention annotation du numero qui peut gacher la lecture
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Page 1, Panel 4: Arkon and his realm of Polemachus first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #75. Page 1, Panel 5: Thundra first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #129. Page 2, Panel 8: The destruction of Polemachus and, subsequently, Qward (on page 4, panels 4-5) are reminiscent of the destruction of various Earths in DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths maxi-series, also drawn by Pérez. Also interesting to note is that both planets were considered to be at the center of their respective universes. Page 3, Panel 3: The Weaponers of Qward first appeared in Green Lantern (2nd series) #2. Page 3, Panels 4-7: The Crime Syndicate first appeared in Justice League of America #29. The current incarnation first appeared in JLA: Earth 2. Both the aforementioned Qwardians and the Crime Syndicate exist in DC's Anti-Matter Universe, an "opposite" universe in which good is evil and vice-versa. Hence, the Crime Syndicate are evil counterparts to the JLA as follows: Ultraman/Superman, Superwoman/Wonder Woman, Power Ring/Green Lantern, Johnny Quick/Flash, Owlman/Batman. Page 4, Panel 9: The hand surrounding the universe is a homage to how the DC Universe was created, first shown in Green Lantern (1st series) #40 and featured prominently in Crisis on Infinite Earths. Page 5: The physical manifestation of Eternity in the Marvel Universe first appeared in Strange Tales (1st series) #138. The story title, "A Journey Into Mystery", is a homage to the classic Marvel Comics series Journey Into Mystery in which Thor first made his appearance in issue #83. Page 6, Panel 4: The Grandmaster, one of the Elders of The Universe, first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #69. Page 7, Panels 2-7: Krona, or Entropy as he later became known, first appeared in Green Lantern (2nd series) #40. Krona was also instrumental in setting up events for the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Pages 8-9: The Justice League of America from the DC Universe battle Terminus from the Marvel Universe. JLA members pictured are: (top to bottom, left to right) Batman (first appeared in Detective Comics #27), Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner, first appeared in Green Lantern (3rd series) #48), Plastic Man (first appeared in Police Comics #1), Martian Manhunter (first appeared in Detective Comics #225), Superman (first appeared in Action Comics #1), Aquaman (first appeared in More Fun Comics #73), Flash (Wally West, first appeared in Flash (1st series) #110), Wonder Woman (first appeared in All Star Comics #8). Page 8: Big Belly Burger is a franchise restaurant chain used often in the DC Universe. Fallville, Iowa was the birthplace of the current Flash's predecessor, Barry Allen. Page 9: Terminus first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #269. The Sekowsky's store is a homage to Mike Sekowsky, the first artist to ever draw the Justice League. Lexmart is a retail store chain in the DC Universe that is patterned after Walmart. Keystone City is home to the current Flash, Wally West, in the DC Universe. Page 13, Panel 3: The Spectre first appeared in More Fun Comics #52. The current Hal Jordan incarnation first appeared in Day of Judgement #5. Hal Jordan was originally the Green Lantern of Earth and a long-time member of the JLA, hence the team's reaction to his appearance. Pages 14-15: The Avengers from the Marvel Universe battle Starro the Star Conqueror from the DC Universe. Avengers members pictured are: (top to bottom, left to right) Thor (first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #83), Quicksilver (first appeared in X-Men (1st series) #4), Iron Man (first appeared in Tales of Suspense (1st series) #39), Vision (first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #57), Triathlon (first appeared in Avengers (3rd series) #8), Captain America (first appeared in Captain America Comics #1), Jack of Hearts (first appeared in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #22), Wasp (first appeared in Tales to Astonish (1st series) #44), Warbird (first appeared as Carol Danvers in Marvel Super-Heroes (1st series) #13, as Warbird in Avengers (3rd series) #4), She-Hulk (first appeared in Savage She-Hulk #1), Yellowjacket (first appeared as Ant-Man in Tales to Astonish (1st series) #27, as Yellowjacket in Avengers (1st series) #59), Scarlet Witch (first appeared in X-Men (1st series) #4). Starro the Star Conqueror first appeared in The Brave and The Bold (1st series) #28. Page 20, Panel 2: Quasar, cosmic protector of the Marvel Universe, first appeared as Marvel Man in Captain America (1st series) #217. Page 20, Panel 4: DC's Lobo, a character inspired by Marvel's Wolverine who first appeared in Omega Men #3, is shown fighting Marvel's Imperial Guard, a team patterned after DC's Legion of Super-Heroes who first appeared in X-Men (1st series) #107. The members shown and their Legion equivalents are as follows: (top to bottom, left to right) Hobgoblin/Chameleon Boy, Oracle/Saturn Girl, Starbolt/Sun Boy, Smasher/Ultra Boy, Nightside/Shadow Lass, Fang/Timber Wolf, Manta/Lightning Lass, Warstar/none, Impulse/Wildfire, Magique/Princess Projectra, Flashfire/Lightning Lad, Neutron/Ferro Lad, Astra/Phantom Girl, Hussar/none, Mentor/Brainiac 5, Electron/Cosmic Boy, Titan/Colossal Boy. Page 20, Panel 5: The Aakons (right) from the Marvel Universe, who first appeared in Captain Marvel (1st series) #8, are shown fighting the Khunds (left) from the DC Universe, who first appeared in Adventure Comics #346. Page 21, Panel 2: The Barry that the Flash mentions is Barry Allen, the second bearer of the Flash name in the DC Universe and the current Flash's uncle. Allen died in Crisis on Infinite Earths #8. Page 21, Panel 8: The Speed Force is an extra-dimensional energy source that is vibrationally attuned to the Earth of the DC Universe. It was first mentioned in Flash (2nd series) #97. Page 22: Unlike in the DC Universe, mutant racism and prejudice is a vast social problem in the Marvel Universe, hence the Flash's confusion. Page 23, Panel 1: (left) The shape-shifting alien Skrulls from the Marvel Universe, who first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #2, are shown fighting the Wingmen of Thanagar from the DC Universe, who first appeared in The Brave and The Bold (1st series) #34. Thanagar is also home to JLA members Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Page 23, Panel 1: (right) Mongul from the DC Universe, who first appeared in DC Comics Presents #27, is shown fighting the Brood from the Marvel Universe, who first appeared in Uncanny X-Men #154. Page 24, Panels 2-3: Uatu the Watcher, from a race of cosmic beings who monitor events of universal importance and are sworn to an oath of non-interference, first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #13. Page 26: The six items of power from the DC Universe that Grandmaster shows the JLA are as follows (clockwise from top): The Eternity Book is a powerful magical tome created by the sorceror Merlin in the DC Universe that contains a narrative of the entire history of existence to the present day. The Orb of Ra is an ancient weapon created from a fallen meteor by an Egyptian priest named Ahk-ton. Unearthed centuries later by Rex Mason, the Orb's energies transformed him into Metamorpho. First seen in The Brave and The Bold (1st series) #57. The Power Battery is what gives Green Lanterns in the DC Universe their power. Linked to the central power battery on the planet Oa, each battery could originally recharge its wielder's power ring for a period of 24 hours. When Kyle Rayner took over as Green Lantern of Earth, the 24 hour limitation was removed. Now the ring only needs to be charged periodically. First seen in All-American Comics #16. The Spear of Destiny is an artifact of enormous magical power that was used by a Roman centurion to pierce the side of Jesus Christ after he was crucified. In the DC Universe, it was used by Hitler during World War I to keep the allied super-heroes out of Axis territory. First seen in Weird War Tales (1st series) #50. The Medusa Mask, possessed by the villainous Psycho-Pirate II in the DC Universe, allows whoever uses it to control other people's emotions. First seen in Showcase #56. The Green Bell of Uthool, the Silver Wheel of Nyorlath, and the Red Jar of Calythos are occult artifacts in the DC Universe that can summon three powerful elder demons - Abnegazar, Ghast, and Rath. First seen in Justice League of America #10. See the annotation for Page 39 for the six items from the Marvel Universe. Page 28, Panel 3: Ray Palmer, a.k.a. the Atom II, first appeared in Showcase #34. Page 29, Panel 3. Clint Barton, a.k.a. Hawkeye, first appeared in Tales of Suspense (1st series) #57. Page 30, Panel 1: The ruined city mentioned by the Atom is in the Blue Area of the Moon, home to Uatu the Watcher, first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #13. It was constructed millennia ago by the alien Kree with the assistance of the Skrulls. Page 30, Panels 4-6: Latveria is the fictional Eastern European country in the Marvel Universe ruled by the armored despot Doctor Doom, both first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #5. Page 30, Panels 8-10: Genosha is the fictional island nation in the Marvel Universe that was once ruled by Magneto, who appears on a propaganda poster in panel 10. Genosha was first seen in Uncanny X-Men #235 and was later destroyed by Sentinels in New X-Men #115. Magneto first appeared in X-Men (1st series) #1 and was supposedly killed in Genosha's destruction. |
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07/09/2003, 21h46
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Page 31, Panels 5-6: The Hulk first appeared in Incredible Hulk (1st series) #1, and was also a founding member of the Avengers in Avengers (1st series) #1. He and Superman have met twice before, in the Incredible Hulk vs Superman one-shot and in the DC vs Marvel Comics mini-series, however Superman doesn't recognize him here. Conway's Market is a homage to veteran JLA writer Gerry Conway.
Page 31, Panels 9-10: The skull-chested vigilante known as the Punisher first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man (1st series) #129. He and Batman have also met twice before, in the Batman/Punisher: Lake of Fire and Punisher/Batman: Deadly Knights one-shots, but as with Superman and the Hulk, Batman does not recognize him here. Page 32, Panel 7. The island in the Sea of Okhotsk in the Marvel Universe is Monster Isle, home to the subterranean Mole Man and his creatures, which first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #1. Page 33, Panel 1: Three of the Marvel Universe's classic monsters appear. (from left to right) - Fin Fang Foom first appeared in Strange Tales (1st series) #89, Van Doom's Monster first appeared in Tales To Astonish (1st series) #17, and Tricephalus first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #1. The JLA's fight against these monsters is a homage to the threat of the giant alien Appellax monsters that was responsible for the team's original formation as seen in Justice League of America #9. Page 35, Panel 3: H'ronmeer is a deity of the Martian culture. The Ultimate Nullifier is a weapon of immense power in the Marvel Universe, capable of destroying an entire universe, which was first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #50. Page 36, Panel 11: Superman mentions three fictional cities in the DC Universe - Metropolis, Star City, and St. Roche. Metropolis is home to Superman, Star City is home to Green Arrow, and St. Roche is home to Hawkman. Page 37, Panel 8: Galactus, a powerful cosmic entity in the Marvel Universe who first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #48, is mentioned by Thor. Hawkeye's comment about the JLA seeming familiar to him is another nod to the DC vs Marvel Comics mini-series. Page 38, Panel 5: Metron first appeared in New Gods (1st series) #1. Page 39: The six items of power from the Marvel Universe that Metron shows the Avengers are as follows (clockwise from top): The Soul Gems, also known as the Infinity Gems, are a set of six items of power in the Marvel Universe that offer their users control over space, time, power, reality, the mind, and the soul. Collectively, the gems combine to form the powerful Infinity Gauntlet. First mentioned in Avengers (1st series) Annual #7. The Wand of Watoomb is a mystic artifact in the Marvel Universe that greatly enhances its wielder's magical energies. First seen in Amazing Spider-Man (1st series) Annual #2. The Ultimate Nullifier is a weapon of immense power in the Marvel Universe, capable of destroying an entire universe. First seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #50. The Cosmic Cube was created by the subversive organization known as Advanced Idea Mechanics in the Marvel Universe. Incredibly powerful, the Cube is able to grant its wielder anything they desire. First seen in Tales of Suspense (1st series) #79. The Evil Eye is a powerful weapon from the mystic realm of Avalon that was presented by Prestor John during the time of the Crusades in the 12th Century of the Marvel Universe. First seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #54. The Casket of Ancient Winters is an object from Norse mythology in the Marvel Universe which contains the legendary Fimbulwinter, a powerful magical frigid force. First seen in Thor (1st series) #345. Page 40, Panel 7: Metron gives the Avengers a Mother Box, a tool used by the New Gods for transportation via Boom Tube, knowledge, healing, detecting danger, transmuting matter, controlling emotions, and much more. Page 41, Panel 2: Loophole first appeared in Adventures of Superman #505. His assistant, Myrna, is a homage to the wife of Loophole's creator, Karl Kesel. Page 42, Panel 2: Metropolis was restructured by Brainiac 13 into a futuristic city in Superman: Y2K #1. Page 42, Panel 5: The JSA, the Justice Society of America, were the first superhero team ever created in All-Star Comics #3. The Titans mentioned are the Teen Titans, a group of teenage former sidekicks that first appeared as a team in The Brave and The Bold (1st series) #54. Page 43, Panel 2: The third screen depicting DC's Captain Marvel, who first appeared in Whiz Comics #2, makes mention of a new movie starring the character. Such a movie is currently in the works at New Line. Page 43, Panel 3: The second screen depicts Supergirl, who first appeared in Action Comics #252. The third screen depicts Superman's arch-enemy Lex Luthor, who first appeared in Action Comics #23. Luthor became President of the United States in the DC Universe in Superman: Lex 2000. Page 43, Panel 4: The Fox Storage building is a homage to Gardner Fox, a veteran JLA writer. Page 43, Panels 5-6: The Flash Museum, located in Central City, Missouri in the DC Universe, was originally established to celebrate the career of the city's greatest champion but was later expanded to follow the careers of all those who bore the name Flash. It was first seen in Flash (1st series) #154. Page 44, Panel 6: Booster Gold, seen on the back cover of the magazine Scarlet Witch is reading, is a hero from the future of the DC Universe and a former JLA member who first appeared in Booster Gold #1. Page 45: Toth Towers is a homage to veteran comic book artist and animator Alex Toth. Page 46, Panel 1: The Squadron Supreme are a team of heroes in the Marvel Universe, currently appearing in Marvel Comics' Supreme Power MAX series, that were originally patterned after the JLA. Page 46, Panel 4: Captain America's declaration "Nuts!" is an historical allusion to American General Anthony McAuliffe, who said the same thing during the Battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes in Belgium during World War II to a German delegation asking the Americans to either surrender or be killed. Page 47: Superman is vulnerable to magic, hence Thor being able to blood him with his enchanted hammer, Mjolnir. |
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07/09/2003, 21h47
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j'ai pas osé lire, c'est le résumé de chaque page?
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07/09/2003, 21h59
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c pas parce que je met pas de smiley qu il faut s enerver:p
mais j explique que je parlais d un sujet precis c tout apres chacun d entre nous a une idee sur la question :) n aimant ni wally west ni kyle rayner trouvant superman tellement chien chien du gvt et etant un fan d avengers et cap , tu te doutes de mon avis :) la jsa j esais pas mais me plait plus que la jla(j espere qu ils vont apparaitre) |
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07/09/2003, 23h06
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attention, ma reponse de tout a l'heure est une private joke
c pour ca que j'ai mis plain de smiley et que j'ai pris un ton gamin avec mallrat |
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#25
07/09/2003, 23h08
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dis gbasik, tu peux nous mettre un lien sur le site ou t'as trouvé ca?
ce serais sympa pour ceux qui veulent, y a la meme chose pour kingdom com |
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#26
07/09/2003, 23h21
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tu as la même chose en français ou en anglais? enfin pas grave moi ça m'interesse
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#27
07/09/2003, 23h29
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ah ben bravo
ah quoi ca sert que hall of heroes se decarcasse:diablo: et la page des liens de ton site favoris, c pour les mutants?:mad: bon allez, je te fais un petit plaisir [URL=http://www.io.com/%7Ewoodward/chroma/]CLIQUE ICI POUR LES ANOTATIONS DE CRISIS ET KINGDOM[/URL] |
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07/09/2003, 23h35
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ouai mais les lien en langue anglaise je m'y attarde pas, tandis que là c'est un lien direct8(
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#29
07/09/2003, 23h38
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lol j'adore trop yann moi...
bon ce petit bijou pour en revenir au sujet est une pure merveille qu'on doit absolument avoir dans sa bibli... surtout que superman se prend encore une rouste (lol je déconne je déconne) |
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#30
07/09/2003, 23h39
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c le meme lien sur notre site, y a qu'a cliquer. c souventt que l'on met le lien directement sur le sujet concerné
parce qu'on sais qu'il y a beaucoup d'anes fegnant comme toi mdr:D :D :D :D |
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